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What motivates you to engage with the Integral framework?
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Harmony around us
Posted August 18th, 2008 by lapj3301Hope my language won't be a wall for your understanding.
What motivate me to engage myself and my Self in the integral framework is to feel harmony all around me. By the framework I got to understand the place that everyone plays in the big picture of the evolution. I love to look at everyone in the street and feel that wholeness. Therefore, everyone has their own place in this whole.
As a teacher, I need to include everyone and this framework is awesome to make it works. I also think that I need an experience of harmony myself before I could created it in my work. This is why I came into this web site and share with you my motivation.
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More growth, greater clarity, and a thirst for community of like minds.
Posted August 21st, 2008 by Marcia HagemanWilber's work blew into my life with the book, "A Brief History of Everything". It was a heavy time in my life when I was suffering from existential depression, long before I even knew the term.
In further exploration of his work, I found the depression lifting as I began to understand the scope of the vision he has shared with us. The word that kept recurring in my spinning brain over the first months was, "clean". As in non-toxic, without egocentric or ethnocentric hidden agendas. Inclusive.
Wilber's work also gave me a framework through which to teach Art to suffering university students, long before there was Art Therapy. I drew upon it heavily in a county jail where I volunteered time to teach art and ended by introducing the inmates to quadrant information that gave them hope for their own immediate future and recovery upon release. I have drawn on the foundational information as framework for groups in Inpatient Psychiatry, Inpatient Substance Abuse, and Inpatient PTSD Treatment. I find it utterly compelling and practical at every level of my life and throughout all my personal and professional life.
I come here to seek community, to talk to others, mostly to listen to others and to learn. (I once met a man who was familiar with Wilber's work, but he didn't have time to talk... We did gaze comprehendingly at one another for a few seconds, and that was nice.) Thank you all, for this opportunity.
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It's the best brand of pudding
Posted August 22nd, 2008 by Jeff BombergerWhat motivates me to engage the Integral framework? Well, it happens to be the best brand of pudding on the shelf right now.
When I was younger, I clung to a quote Harry Chapin gave (while quoting Pete Seeger), in that, "The people with the live hearts, the live mind, the live ears....are usually the people that are commited to something. So in a final analysis, Commitment, in and of itself, irrespective of whether you win or not, is truly something that makes your life worthwhile." But after awhile, that idea of life didn't hold mustard. You CAN be committed to the wrong thing, and this type of philosophy (although well intentioned, and sometimes even lucky, if you're on the good side of "The Force"), can certainly turn into something truly detrimental.
Eventually I learned to appreciate models that more clearly allowed for unfolding, inclusion, change, evolutionary growth, and yet still had the backbone to call itself an "It" that could comfortably still be defined with an undeniable identity. You can see Wilber's work transcending from being a footpath, to a Highway, and yet the footpath's he set forth in earlier writings, still have the same thrust.
But what draws me to the Integral framework the most, is that it tastes good. It's not because it's the "latest thing" and I can dazzle the less informed with complex concepts (in fact, that never works). It just simply, tastes good. I can use it, I can feel it, it makes my life better, it makes me want to communicate better, it helps me understand others better, as well as myself.....It is beautiful music I need to hear, and appreciate when I do. And what an added bonus when you do find people that are responding to the framework with open arms, are people that you already respected in earlier contexts, in different genres.....like Ed Kowalcyzk (music I've loved from song one), or Stuart Davis (who I heard and kept demo tapes from back when my sister went to Mankato State..."Suburban Ignorance is Bliss"), and on and on.
And now if I can find a community, through Integral Life, then this would truly be the icing.
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Becoming Free to be Fully Human
Posted August 23rd, 2008 by Helen DavisOriginally, I guess what motivated me to engage with the integral framework was Ken Wilber's writing. Like another contributor to this inquiry, it was the book 'A Theory of Everything' quickly followed by 'One Taste' which turned my intellectual understanding around. His explanations of concepts like the pre/trans fallacy made so much fall into place for me. The four quadrants model is sheer intellectual ecstasy, and I've also used it to explain and illustrate the different forms of academic research to my under- and post- grad students to great effect. The more of his work I read the more I couldn't understand why the man wasn't a household name, (though thinking about this is the light of developmental stages, I think I might now understand that.)
But I realise it would be a terrible waste just to use the integral framework to tickle my cognitive tastebuds, pleasurable though that may be. I think the framework, the Intrgral Life website, and the I-I generally can be an effective vehicle for bringing more contentedness, wonderment, gratitude, altruism and inspiration to people's lives throughout the world. I am very inspired by the foundation of such bodies as the one set up for Integral Leadership, as I think this is a crucial area for the achievement of more contentedness, wonderment etc. This is an area where I hope to be able to contribute more in the future.
As an addendum, I don't think that the introductory video on the new Integral Life site does full justice to what the integral framework represents. I think perhaps it's too focused on the one person, though this may go down very well in the USA where individualism rates higher in the national culture than community (Hofstede). For a video to represent what the Integral Framework means to me, I think it would have started with brief black and white images of the messes humans get themselves into: something like (but not as corny as)- icebergs melting, children dis[laced in civil wars, death camps, atomic explosions, and then gone quickly into colour images of an older person teaching a younger person how to do something creative or satisfying, my multi-ethnic students collaborating on a group assignment, my son and his friends spending all day helping motorists push their cars up a vital road on a hill made almost insurmountable by ice (and not charging for it, just showing off their virility,) a committee meeting of Medecin Sans Frontieres, somebody receiving the Nobel Prize for something which has had more advantages for the planet than drawbacks, Gormley's 'Angel of theNorth', Monet's Waterlillies, somebody appreciating the morning sun on their face, children jumping in puddles while their parents look on in delight, a meeting of a book club, two or more friends chatting enthusistically, etc. etc. I suppose this is what 'free to be fully human' means to me. I am a chronic depressive. and have to struggle a lot of the time against all the evidence that the world is cruel and meaningless. The integral framework helps me do this, and helps me get contentedness and inspiration from all the things I've listed above. I want everybody else to have that chance too.
Helen
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Motivation for using the integral framework
Posted August 25th, 2008 by Alice LauleI'm the pre-medical student that didn't drop out and become a dishwasher, but was writing penetrating essays on the meaning of freedom, the consequences of building a system of ethics on the principle of survival, reading Plato, Hegel, Hume etc etc even when those weren't class assignments. Then I went to medical school. Ah -- but that's another story. It certainly messed with my mind. I have a clear vision of myself holding a half filled wine glass in the air as I held forth to an atheistic friend of mine about the double blind placebo crossover trial being the only way to Truth. Even my atheist friend thought I was a bit over the top.
Then life took my by the hair and dragged me around a little bit, and I began to think for myself again. By 1995, I found my motivation for using the integral framework -- which was simply the "yes" "yes" "yes" that kept coming to me, often times with laughter, as I read Sex, Ecology and Spirituality.
I was reading part of it on an airplane, and my seat mate finally had to ask me what could be so humorous in a book that thick. It was hard to explain. Just, sometimes when you re-encounter something that is as close to truth as you can get your mind to comprehend, it makes you laugh.
Integral helps me understand my life, my place in life, my decisions. It helps me counsel and work with others, as I do every day. It increases my empathy and compassion. I am able to language things in ways that work for people, no matter where they are on spiral, thanks to the integral framework. My motivation is that it works, my life is more fun and fulfilling when I use it. And thanks to all who keep organizing this, putting it out there for us, making a community for us.
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Why do i engage with the integral framework
Posted September 8th, 2008 by Ann Ralston--
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Was introduced to Ken's work about five years ago, since then have read most of his books - find his framework and thought extraordinarily helpful and encouraging as try to find ways to live fruitfully in this fast-changing society in SA. Have missed being able to exchange with others regarding many questions/insights - hope very much that this forum will enable widening of horizons, new ways to respond effectively - and include fun as well.
Am using the integral framework since it first blew into my "'space" and find it is the most helpful way for helping others in transition to respond positively to life-changes. Big thankyou to all involved in developing the I-I workbook, and this exciting new means of communication.
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In the spirit of Jeff's food analogies...
Posted September 5th, 2008 by Jonathan OgonowskiThank you Jeff, your comment was beautifully and eloquently described
now maybe I'm a bit too obsessed with food, but to keep to the theme of edibel analogies, ever since I stumbled apon "A Brief History of Everything" in 2003 I have had no choice but to witness my current bodymind endlessly gorge its self on both the map and territory of the Integral framework. It's really a matter of letting it arrise. the very fact that i am here has become motivation in it's self. that is the only way i can describe it. also I'm not as elloquant as some of the other people who have commented.
One thing that seems to be demonstrated again and again, AQAL is a helpful heuristic device at the very least, and as an opening to your own self and Self, AQAL or IOS (Inegral Operating System) for myself at least, can be summed up in six words which I will risk in stealing from a well known consumer product;
Once you pop, you can't stop.
and after all, as its all an ornament of ones own true Self, theres nothing like a little (healthy) self-love every now and then.
Consumer advice: the (3p) AQAL framework artifact is not a substitute for a full and balanced diet and should be taken in conjunction with living the teritory.
if symtoms persist please seek advice from your Integrally informed GP.
P.s. the new Integral life web site kiscks ass guys!! you have exceeded my expectations in every way. well done and thanx for all the hard work!
with gratitude, respect and love
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Maximization of Productivity and Happiness
Posted September 20th, 2008 by Julius KoFor me,
Being integral empowers me to strive to be the best that I can be.. but in this case, it's not doing it on an egoic level, not even at an ethnocentric level or worldcentric level, it's being the best manifestation of Godhead in this world; at this time.
It's about pushing limits, not for our own sake, but for the sake of the entire universe... God, I'm starting to sound like Andrew Cohen =D.
But yes; that's what the framework provides for me, an intensive map that enables one to optimize performance and fulfilment not only for one's own personal sake, but for eternity.
Cheers.
- Ju
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Motivation
Posted September 23rd, 2008 by jon wolstonI like the Integral framework because you can be honest and reverent at the same time. What a breath of fresh air that is.
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Everybody Stands on the Shoulders of Giants
Posted October 6th, 2008 by Andrew--if they carry the world on their own.
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'That'
Posted October 19th, 2008 by Susan Cremin'That' is what motivates this engagement with the Integral framework. It runs everything 'I' do. Don't even really want to be here as its way too intellectual for me. I mainly live in the spiritual world - its simplicity itself- but 'That' wants to engage in this !
Most of the engagement happens of its own accord. Ken's books keep falling into my hands and 'That' wants to eat them ! Its operating in my mind like a processer. The only effort on my part is concentration and contemplation.
Most of the learning happens by myself but I have a very receptive friend who is very developed in the 'cognizing' line. This helps me understand more as I try to explain 'AQAL' - teaching always deepens one's learning.
It benefits all areas of my life in ways that are impossible to explain - its seems like a natural way of being and seeing - but the most important thing is the compassion and patience that arises for 'myself' and 'others'. The love and pain for 'all of us' is overwhelming at times.
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All of my dreams coming true.
Posted January 19th, 2010 by Billy GuilfoyleWe all have had dreams of a peaceful world filled with loving people and safety and care for our children. We have all thirsted for an education system designed to be able to implement all of the top knowledge in human development so that each person can be encouraged and taught all about the individual psyche and the universe. Wouldn't it be amazing if shadow work was introduced in school in kindergarden? Wouldn't it be cool if projection was something every fourth grader was so acutely aware of that the awareness of the process of projection became stronger than the projections themselves in that people are not raised ignorant of such things?
I came to the integral approach out of a calling from both within and without. It was an urge for peace and transcendence, as well as a world evolving toward just that. And the two have met with happiness here and within the reading of Ken's books.
My real first contact with an integral understanding of any kind began with reading Out of Chaos by Louis J. Halle when I was in my early twenties. This book attempted to synthesize our understanding of the universal predicament by laying out the story of existence sequentially from the beginning of the universe to the formation of planets and stars to life to mind. It was an epic book that opened me up to a larger picture of who I am and what all of this is. I discovered Ken Wilber's book The Atman Project in the University library right after that. Then I dropped out of school.
I can't say it was Ken's book in particular that made me drop out of school. But I can say that I was craving an integral education designed to satiate my overwhelming desire to know as much about our universal existential predicament as possible. So I traveled the world for a year and a half, and then began as a professional artist in film, music, and stand-up comedy, exploring the world of writer, actor, and director. I also educated myself in quantum physics, molecular psychology, cosmology, most of the noteworthy western philosophers, and much of the eastern wisdom. I studied criminology, serial killers, the Holocaust, all following a simple and innocent inward curiosity. And eventually No Boundary came my way. I ended up buying it for a 17 year-old young man a few months ago. These are books that the youth are ready for and are eating up. They are not coming from a "believe this because this is the only truth" perspective. This is why the kids trust it.
A Brief History really hit it home for me that everything is really a reflection of everything. But it was the audio talks and the few videos I've seen with Ken and Genpo Roshi and Diane Musho Hamilton that have really painted a clear picture for me in understanding the value and benefit of an integral practice. My awareness of the benefits and, one might even say necessity, of an integral practice and finding a teacher to help with transcending the ego come directly from listening to these wonderful, caring people who have dedicated their whole lives to the betterment of self and humanity. There are probably thousands of people who have listened to these audio discussions who may have never learned of the value of finding a spiritual teacher, for instance, had they not heard repeated discussions about it by Ken and friends.
I'm really just grateful at all of this. It's nice to see all of my dreams coming true,
Billy Guilfoyle,
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Uncompromising Love
Posted October 29th, 2011 by Tana Saler
Everything else asks me and others to show up partially in the world, fragmented. Every other framework makes truth claims that are partial, but claim to be universal. I grew tired of all the voices telling me to follow them, because their way are the only valid way. I grew tired of making myself smaller than I am, in a broken, incoherent word, conveniently fitting and enacting a broken image of who I am.
I cannot do what it is done. I cannot pretend I haven’t seen what I saw, an integrative framework that builds bridges and allows for dialogue and invites me, us, all of us, to fully show up in this world. I can’t shrink back into a fragment of me, and return to navigate through life with crappy maps, or no maps at all. My feet don’t fit into those old, smaller shoes anymore.
What motivates me to engage with the Integral framework is Love, this tremendous force that shows up through how I enact it in the world, and seeks fulfillment through my living fully. This Eros that kicks me in the butt to go out there and commune with wider and wider circles; this Agape that wants me to embrace All That Is, and shows me, on the map, exactly how to do that.
It’s uncompromising Love - this irresistible, awesome, infinite and eternal force that sweeps me off my feet, making me fall in Love, and raise in Love with the Integral framework, wanting me to study it, apply it, practice it, teach it, live it, breathe it.
And how can I say no to that which I AM?

Tana Saler
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Posted January 4th, 2012 by Kurt JohnsonThinking of all positive works you really wanted to do,,, This is a big motivation...
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Relaxing into Wholeness
Posted August 15th, 2008 by Gayle Karen YoungWhat motivates me is a desire for wholeness out of a frequent experience of fragmentation. Being born to traditional Chinese parents and raised in American society, there have been the times of great confusion but also the great gift of seeing that there were multiple ways to view the world that were downright paradoxical unless one enlarges one's own context. The experience of internal fragmentation is mirrored in the worlds I walk in, as a woman, in business, as a spiritual being in very secular environments, being rewarded for mental acuity while the embodied aspects of self weren't as fully developed, being a non-linear being in the linear loops of daily schedules, having kinesthetic and intuitive sensory expeirences in a world where the language to communicate about them has felt limited...the list goes on. In all of these places, an integral approach has just created some room to breathe.
I've been fortunate to have many mentors and teachers, but not so many peers, so much of my learning has occured in self-reflection and solitude. I'd really love the community aspect more, which is what was so appealing about the Integral Theory Conference at JFK last weekend and also draws me to this website
In being able to relax into being more rather than strive into being, there's a greater sense of fluidity and ease, spontenaity and play, and also a greater capacity to hold what is painful and challenging without "being bothered by it" as another mentor phrased it.